Thursday, January 11, 2018

White House does not deny Trump 'shithole' comments

White House does not deny Trump 'shithole' comments

"The White House on Thursday did not deny that President Trump referred to some immigrants as coming from 'shithole countries' during a heated Oval Office meeting on immigration."

I have been in many, perhaps most, of the countries in question and I think there is no reason for Trump to walk these comments back. Some of those countries are third-world shitholes.

I'll make an exception for El Salvador, where I found the people relatively sophisticated and the country itself gorgeous, with lush rain forests, picturesque mountains and beautiful Pacific beaches. It was even fairly well developed when I visited there about 20 years ago, to the point where I never felt I was in the third world. I liked it there, and even hung around with some of the young local guys in my free time, which I generally did not do when working on a market study. In terms of natural beauty, it's as nice or nicer than Costa Rica, which is now considered a vacation paradise.

Those Salvadorans in America have left a beautiful potential paradise, and they probably love their country. That tells you all you need to know about whether the place is safe. It isn't. It's violent and corrupt, cursed by an unholy alliance between the ruling class and brutal gangs. It is one of the tragedies of the Americas.

6 comments:

  1. Many of his biggest strongholds in this country are shitholes, too.

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    1. If Haitians from Port au Prince could live in the very worst, trash-strewn, god-forsaken, crime-infested corner of the worst US city, whatever that is, they would think they had died and gone to heaven.

      Remember all of those videos a few years back that were supposed to show the devastation wreaked by the earthquake? Here's the sad bit. For those of us who have been to Port au Prince, we couldn't see any difference from the way it looked BEFORE the earthquake. For a while, I was thinking that the entire earthquake story was just some kind of Nigerian Prince scam to get foreign assistance there. Now THAT is a shithole.

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  2. There is big difference between you or I calling those places shitholes, and the POTUS doing it.

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    1. That is true, of course. If I were President (god forbid, because I'd make Trump look like Winston Fokking Churchill), I would not refer to their countries as shitholes. I would probably stop at hell-holes. But it would be even worse, because I'd do it to their faces.

      But this reminds me. When I lived in Olso there was quite a stir when a top minister referred to a prominent British politician (I can't remember whom, but I think it was John Major) as a "drittsekk." In terms of the emotional charge of the expression, this would be equivalent to a Brit calling somebody a "wanker." That word doesn't even get bleeped in Norway, just as "wanker" would not in the UK. It's just an impolite, vulgar term that Norwegians have allowed to creep into their everyday vocabulary.

      Unfortunately, people who do not speak the language have no way of understanding the nuances of Norwegian etymology, so it caused quite a stir in the UK, because the literal translation is "shitbag."

      This caused the UK tabloids to run headlines like "Norway calls our Prime Minister a shitbag." (Or something to that effect.)

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  3. Yeah, the difference is when we say it it's crude. When Trump says it, it's Diplomacy. Or so he imagines.

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  4. El Salvador is a victim of politics. Similar to Cuba. Should be a paradise, the political unrest and proxy wars funded by the US and communist countries just ripped the guts out. Nicaragua, too, to some extent. (used to work with a Nicaragua expat, his family left because they didn't want to die, but they fell on the wrong side of some political struggle. Explained a lot of this to me.)

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