“Trump Moves to Deport Vietnam War Refugees”
This is even a bigger dose of WTF than usual.
“Many pre-1995 arrivals, all of whom were previously protected under the 2008 agreement by both the administrations of Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, were refugees from the Vietnam War. Some are the children of those who once allied with American and South Vietnamese forces, an attribute that renders them undesirable to the current regime in Hanoi, which imputes anti-regime beliefs to the children of those who opposed North Vietnam. This anti-Communist constituency includes minorities such as the children of the American-allied Montagnards, who are persecuted in Vietnam for both their ethnicity and Christian religion.”
Note that ONLY applies to people who have been living in the United States for 23 years or more. Since a 2017 ruling already declared the intent to deport any in that group who committed crimes, and this new policy would exempt those who have become citizens, this new policy would therefore deport people displaced by the war in Vietnam who have been living in the USA for 23 years or more as law-abiding residents, but without the protection of citizenship. It would deport them to a country that persecutes them either for being Christian or for their own or their parents’ support of America.
Does that make sense to anyone?
From reading the article, it appears that the Trump wants to deport 5,000 aliens convicted of felonies and that have been ordered deported by a federal immigration judge. I am deeply troubled by the idea of deporting Vietnamese and Cambodians that were refugees because they supported us during the war. The questions I have though are what exactly were the felonies they were convicted of? How serious were their crimes? I would be significantly less sympathetic towards people that had joined criminal gangs and/or committed violent crimes. I would be much more sympathetic towards someone that had been convicted of DUI or some other crime like that.
@MichaelMcChesney:
You’re asking for nuance … from this administration?
Please pass some of what you’re been smoking / imbibing.
I was a nerdy kid that never touched recreational drugs through high school, college, or law school. Since I was 30, I hardly drink alcohol at all. But I was rear ended at a red light by a garbage truck almost 7 years ago. I tried all kinds of rehab and pain management for over a year before I agreed to opioid painkillers, but I’ve been on those ever since. A year ago, I signed up for medical marijuana to try to avoid increasing my opioid Rx. I tried one of those vape inhalers but I had trouble breathing after inhaling, so I stick to cannabis pills. So sorry, Bob. I haven’t been smoking anything I can pass you. Nor do I have any alcohol. Oxycodone and cannabis pills don’t count do they?
I am really hoping that the Dems nominate someone like Joe Biden instead of someone like Elizabeth Warren because Trump is a national embarrassment and I really can’t wait till he’s out of office. But I try to look at each new controversy on it’s own merits. I don’t just assume a policy is wrong because Trump is for it. Am I asking for nuance? If I were the president, I would employ nuance in all sorts of things. But I have low expectations where it comes to Trump. What I am asking is what were the people facing deportation convicted of? It may be that each and every person deserves to be deported. I don’t know. Hopefully, Congress will look into it. I am sure that the House at least will be more willing to investigate Trump in just about 3 weeks.
I got your nuance right here:
If felons committed crimes, they should go to prison. If they were hounded out of their homes as young people, that is no reason to send them there now.
We need to get rid of this decrepit old ass-clown now by any means necessary. His actions cannot be defending on any legal or moral ground.
At first the Trump administration was great comic relief, but yeah, please don’t elect them for a second term.
We essentially invited many of them in – because they were fighting on our side. Something which our C-in-C studiously avoided.
It’s embarrassing and frankly, to me, the only thing that is strong enough to motivate someone to do this is racism.