“Trolls descend on online poll to declare Yang, Williamson second night debate winners”

Yet another example of the swirling specter of disinformation ahead of 2020.

It’s obvious the real winner was my man Hickenlooper. Was anyone else there?

9 thoughts on ““Trolls descend on online poll to declare Yang, Williamson second night debate winners”

  1. they are on the money with that statement.I am a Democrat and for second straight election crap candidates put up. giving Trump another victory.Boy I miss Obama

    1. There is some of that and I agree there are limits and some of these candidates are likely getting very close to the limits with seemingly embracing a genuine ‘open borders’ policy, however, I tend to go with what Canadian political analyst Don Newman said about these things:

      (not the exact quote which I unfortunately can’t find “When an incumbent gets unpopular, it’s amazing how the voters notice something positive in their other choices that they had previously somehow not noticed before or that things that use to bother them about their other choices somehow no longer bother them anymore.”

      In other words, I think the next election will be a referendum on Trump, and there will have to be a significant amount of stupid Democratic positions for these voters to stop opposing Trump.

      We actually saw this in 2016: while Hillary Clinton wasn’t the incumbent in 2016, the Democrats were the incumbent Party of the Presidency and to think that Donald Trump got elected on his merits or on the supposed brilliance of his campaign (a post-hoc discovery) as opposed to just ‘time for a change’ goes against accepted political theory.

      1. only 2 incumbents have not been elected since ww2 elder Bush and Carter and both were beaten by better presidential candidates we don’t have unless Trump is taken down which he won’t he is winning and democrats have nobody to blame but themselves.Both ends of Congress have done nothing and the same will go on four at least two years after election because even if a miracle happens and Trump loses they will never win Senate stalemate.

          1. Truly a genius of our time. I mean whats the deal with this ‘busing’ controversy? What are we going to use to get kids to school?

            NBC News’ Kristen Welker asked if he believed busing was a “viable way of integrating schools.”

            “Well, it has been something that they’ve done for a long period of time,” Trump vaguely responded. “I mean, you know, there aren’t that many ways you’re going to get people to schools. So this is something that’s been done … it is certainly a primary method of getting people to schools.”

      2. Adam –
        Literally no one is calling for an open “get in here you knuckleheads” border. It may seem that way, in contrast to our current policy of taking kids away from their parents and clubbing them like so many baby seals. But policies like honoring our asylum-related obligations under international law and allowing immigrants to wait outside of cages while their cases are pending are nothing new. We’ve just strayed so far from the American norm that it seems that way.

        1. I don’t know. Julian Castro and some of the other candidates agreed that illegally entering the United States should be removed as a criminal penalty and treated as a civil offense.

          I don’t know what the penalties are from that, but I can certainly see Donald Trump saying “the Democrats (or whoever winds up as his Democratic opponent) want to get rid of the law that makes it a crime for people to enter the United States illegally.”

          Whether this change would, in fact, be a defacto ‘open borders’ policy or not I don’t know, but I think it would be very easy to claim that it would and have most Americans believe it.

          At a minimum, those candidates who support this change in law are going to have to explain how it would not lead to defacto open borders.

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