Proof we live in a fucked-up time

The Maryland governor is using the Maryland National Guard to protect against theft of coronavirus tests – by the federal government

Illinois and Massachusetts have also hidden critical medical supplies from the federal government.

19 thoughts on “Proof we live in a fucked-up time

  1. Trump was actually, literally impeached for something he admitted doing. He was not misquoted, the House was not being sarcastic.
    His acquittal in the Senate had more to do with a lack of Republican balls than anything else. If they had flushed him, we would have had Pence handling covid without Trump. A step up, though probably not a big one.

  2. MC: “Fake impeachment”?
    Running an extortion ploy on a friendly country (which Trump hates) to force them to either fabricate nonsense against the other party’s probable candidate or have their ability to defend themselves against an unfriendly country (which our leader has an odd fondness for) severely impaired is not actionable?
    Apparently present day “conservatives” don’t consider anything done by THE PRESIDENT to be open to review or constitutional action. The only way in which clowns like you are conservative is that you’re not liberal. Note: I am from the Midwest and I am conservative.

  3. 1.Michael Flynn pleaded guilty. Hard to believe he’s innocent.

    2.From what little I’ve followed Chris Hayes, I think there are reasons to be concerned about his reporting. He apparently coached Tara Reade and his reports have apparently not included evidence that contradicts her claims.

    For instance, her initial claims was that Joe Biden sexually harassed her, and in a way that is consistent with what is known about Biden, that’s he’s a creepy touchy feely person. Recently she changed her story to now claim it was sexual assault. No other person has come forward to make any similar claim regarding Joe Biden while lots of people have said they were touched by Joe.

    However, I don’t know if the concern is specifically about him, as much as the concern that the major media outlets are going to use this (or something else) to force a false balance like they did in the 2016 Presidential campaign. Jeffrey Toobin at CNN and others have admitted they were required by their superiors to do a negative story on Hillary Clinton every time they did a negative story on Donald Trump, even though there was almost always nothing new to negatively report on Hilary Clinton.

    If I were Joe Biden, this is exactly what I’d say in front of the media:

    “This is a media feeding frenzy driven entirely by their desire to have a horse-race. I’ve acknowledged that I used to touch people, out of affection, in ways that many people might now consider to be inappropriate. What is considered acceptable has changed, and I’ve changed. The original allegation did not make any mention of sexual assault.

    On the other hand, we have Donald Trump who has over 20 serious and credible allegations of sexual assault that are consistent with what he admitted to, many of these allegations made before Trump’s admission was made public.

    We have credible allegations that Trump routinely walked into the dressing room during his Miss Teen USA pageants where some of the contestants were as young as 15. Donald Trump refused to answer to these allegations, and the media gave up asking.

    It seems pretty clear that if you bow to the media, you’ll just encourage their feeding frenzy, even when the allegations, like these, are completely false, but if you refuse to answer, the media will give up.

    So, that’s all I’m going to say on this and there are no questions to answer on this, so that’s it.”

    And then I’d walk away.

  4. Wellfare related to Covid will not stop flowing IF we can get the House back in session.

    I am certain that states will get funds but not bailouts for prior mismanagement.

    There is a MUCH bigger game at play i just hope my kids can afford to pay for it?

  5. Makes you question why there’s a federal government…oh, that’s right, to support the red states mooching off the blue states.

    1. What?

      What do you believe the role of the federal govt is Tanner?

      This is the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives. I dont want someone in Washington that doesn’t face the masses to dictate all policy for your specific area.

      1. And I don’t want tax dollars from blue states going to support economic basket cases like a lot of the red states. Far too many red states are welfare cases living off the net tax contributions from blue states, yet are constantly whining.

      2. Pretty sure Tanner’s point agreed with you, at least as it applies to this thread. The governors are trying to do their jobs for their specific areas, and Kushner is trying to mess it up from Washington. Conservatives should support them. (In fact, two of them are Republicans.)

        However, it doesn’t seem in general that conservatives really want the poor states left to do their own thing. Those states truly need the welfare they get from the federal government through taxing the high incomes in California and the Northeast.

        1. No one believes in states’ rights. They pretend to, as long as they agree with what the states are doing – crossing blacks off the voter rolls, passing anti-union laws, etc. But the minute a state tries to reduce pollution, get companies to pay taxes or something then they’re all “we need the feds to put a stop to that.”

          1. I agree with this completely. People want what they want, and they will fall back on whichever entity (candidate, feds, state, city) favors it.

            This is not a condition exclusive to conservatives. Liberals pull out the same hole card when they’re facing a tough hand. (Sanctuary, marijuana, etc.)

  6. Very, very sad that so much effort has to be made to keep losers like this from fing it up for the masses. Such people are wasting good oxygen.

    Another sign of how terrible times are. #FireChrisHayes trends after MSNBC host covers Biden sexual assault allegations

    We about ruined Kavanaugh’s life over less. We are not getting real or fair news.

    1. There was a link that was taken down here taking anyone to this article

    2. I agree with you about Hayes. He’s a diligent investigative reporter and he’s investigating. There is a story there and he’s trying to get to the bottom of it. Maybe it has merit, maybe not, but he’s doing his job properly in attempting to find out.

      Those governors, however, are doing what they’re sworn to do – acting for the benefit of the people of their states. They are also doing what they are forced to do, since the feds left it entirely up to the states to procure the supplies they need, and we know that feds are stealing those supplies after they are arranged. Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker had a purchase of 3 million N95 masks confiscated by an unspecified federal agency at the Port of New York in March.

      Those three guys are doing exactly what any decent, responsible human being would do in their stead. (And two of the three are Republicans.)

      1. I do appologize for jumping the gun. I am just fired up about the censorship and under reporting of the other major story of our day.

        24 hours since the Flynn evidence was released and no play. No mention of Comey. No mention of the re opening of Bidens SA case which holds more merrit than anything accused of Kavanaugh. No mention of the previous administration’s attempt to frame one of their own!

        If this is all that people listen to they will never be able to make up their own minds, they will just continue to be puppets in the larger game.

        I post because i care, i want to challenge people, make people think before they blindly discredit something that doesnt fit the narritave they have been fed.

        1. I have to admit that this crap seems like small potatoes compared to all the people dying from the coronavirus. It’s kinda “even if true, who cares right now?” I’m guessing that the residents of Hiroshima didn’t much care about the baseball scores and political scandals on August 6th and 7th in 1945. I haven’t even taken time to look at much of anything else but COVID.

          So I guess I understand why there hasn’t been much focus on any other stories. But some or all of those may be legitimately newsworthy, and i would have been studying them thoroughly if I didn’t have more important things to read about.

          If I were advising Trump, I would advise him to stop holding those sideshows every day, and thereby giving reporters more and more fodder in the form of his inevitably ignorant comments that they have to report on. If he could keep his mouth shut for a week, these stories would have a better chance to come to the front burner.

          1. Didn’t we hide the start this whole thing with a fake impeachment during wich we stopped travel from asia?

          2. We didn’t “stop travel from Asia.” Only China was affected, and there were even 11 exceptions within China. Furthermore, it only banned some non-citizens of the USA from traveling, although others were permitted. Moreover, the USA was the 51st country to enact a China travel ban, and the 39th to enact one of comparable severity. Furthermore, people from other countries were not investigated to see if they had been in China within 14 days. In other words, anybody could get here from China as long as they came through another country! Finally, the arrival scanning procedures were inconsistent and perfunctory, and people from other countries were rarely even asked whether they had been in China during the previous 14 days.

            In contrast, Germany had three levels of control of anyone getting off a plane: (1) one person to check passengers’ temperature, (2) one person to check passports specifically for a China stamp, (3) and the regular passport control. It was slow and annoying, but fairly effective.

            I think if Trump had (1) banned all traffic from China unless the passenger specifically tested negative, and (2) had used the same process as Germany to screen passports for any China stamp within the previous 14 days, we would all have been better off.

            Of course hindsight is always easy.

            All told, 40,000 people traveled from China to the USA after the travel “ban,” and heaven only knows how many others entered by simply passing through a third country.

            As for the “fake” impeachment, well (1) Trump did everything he was accused of and (2) those things were clearly of sufficient gravity to be considered impeachable. Every senator who voted to exonerate him has the stain of having cast a corrupt vote. They did so, of course, because their careers are more important to them than their integrity, and they are deathly afraid of getting primaried by Trump’s base.

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