Both Georgia senate races are a toss-up

UncleScoopy

Both races are a coin flip. These races are just about dead even and have very few “undecided” voters, so the outcome will hinge completely on turnout.

The challenge is slightly easier for the GOP only because the Democrats have to win both seats to gain Senate control, so the Republicans can hold on if they win either one. For example, they could write off Loeffler, take all the national/outside money they were planning to spend on her, and put it behind Perdue instead. The Democrats have no similar option. They need both.

15 thoughts on “Both Georgia senate races are a toss-up”

  1. Anyone who votes in this election is going to vote straight Dem or straight GOP, no? I don’t see how one wins but not the other. Turnout is going to fall heavily in favor of the gop. The moderate “trump haters” are not showing up for this one. This won’t be close. Gop by 5%+.

    1. Even in highly partisan situations there seem to be always a few people who split their ticket, possibly to vote for their own divided government. In a very close election, it’s possible that one Democrat and one Republican could win.

    2. I don’t know man, R senators are giving the pooch a long slow screw up against the wall over Covid relief. I mean, when a doofus like Trump can spot your fuckup, you’ve REALLY fucked up. Turnout might just fall heavily in favor of people whose disgust-ometers are pegged.

  2. At this point they can all go to hell. I’m so tired of the fearmongering bullshit ads from all sides it’s not even funny. January can’t get here soon enough.

    1. Sorry to disagree, Dave, but the Republicans can go to hell. The Democrats can go to the Senate, I hope. You may not care, but the rest of us do.

      2. Oh I care. But don’t mistake picking the best choices out of an utter cesspool for liking it. All sides have been running absolutely filthy campaigns except maybe Warnock. America doesn’t deserve better but we goddamned sure need it.

        So let me reiterate. Fuck them all. If it makes you happy fuck the Republicans first, but don’t you dare stop there when the purge starts.

        1. To the ‘there is no difference between Democrats and Republican’
          false equivalency morons:

          This is from the book The Agenda by Bob Woodward on the 1992 campaign and the first 18 months of Bill Clinton’s Presidency.

          This is a conversation during the campaign between Gene Sperling, the Clinton Campaign Economic Policy Coordinator and Ira Magaziner, a health care consultant. Gene Sperling went on to become the Deputy Director of Clinton’s National Economic Council while Ira Magaziner became Hillary Clinton’s disastrous health care policy advisor.

          Can anybody seriously imagine a similar conversation between two senior aides in either the W Bush or Trump Administration?

          From the book pages 43-44

          “Magaziner said national health reform could eventually guarantee coverage to all Americans, including those 37 million currently uninsured, and still manage to save money by 1997. Some pegged the savings at $4 billion. The savings, he said, would be squeezed from wasteful administrative costs that accounted for 28% of health care costs.

          Sperling found Magaziner maniacal. Magaziner wanted to put his numbers in the economic plan, but his claims sounded absurd and implausible to Sperling. Most experts said health care reform would be an expensive undertaking. Sperling suspected that no one outside the campaign, no independent specialist, would support Magaziner. He knew that journalists would immediately check the numbers, and it would make news if no one else supported them. Expert validation was essential. He told Magaziner he wouldn’t include the health care numbers in the plan unless a respected outside authority backed them up. Sperling suggested Henry Aaron, an economist at the well-established Brookings Institution and a recognized health policy expert.

          Sperling and Magaziner phoned Aaron for a conference call. Aaron said he didn’t think health care was as waste based as Magaziner claimed. Aaron declined to support anything close to Magaziner’s estimates.

          Sperling offered to let Magaziner find his own experts.

          “They’re all wrong,” Magaziner insisted.

          “Ira” Sperling replied “you might be the smarted person in the world, but in presidential politics, if the experts don’t verify you, you get hit on national television, and then it’s a disaster.”

          Of course, it’s only a disaster if your supporters care about verification or the truth. If you’re a Republican and have Fox News or Newsmax or One America Network, you get to make your own reality.

          1. I’ll thank you to quit putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said there was no difference between them. I said both sides fall far short of what they need to be and given a viable third choice I’d vote them all off the island. The Democrats are somewhat better in the same sense that getting kicked in the balls by a toddler is somewhat better than a direct nutshot from Johnny Hekker.

            We need people to start paying attention to the primaries and making better choices in who they allow to represent them regardless of party.

          2. That’s not what you said. You were only referring to ads, but you did say this:
            “At this point they can all go to hell. I’m so tired of the fearmongering bullshit ads from all sides”

            And then you added this:
            “Fuck them all. If it makes you happy fuck the Republicans first, but don’t you dare stop there when the purge starts.”

        2. Dave, when you say things like “At this point they can all go to hell. I’m so tired of the fearmongering bullshit ads from all sides it’s not even funny” and “All sides have been running absolutely filthy campaigns except maybe Warnock”, you will just have to forgive us when we think you mean what you say. Personally, I find it tough to pick up on what you mean but don’t say. Sorry, I guess.

          But we’re all clear now. Both sides are bad, but the Republicans are a little bit worse. Who could possibly argue with that?

          Maybe saying what you mean right at the start could be a New Years Resolution for you? It would help both us and you. Merry Christmas!

    1. As of this moment (10:00 Wed night), 538 shows Purdue ahead by 4/10 of a point and Loeffler behind by 5/10 of a point. It couldn’t be much closer.

      The latest poll from Survey USA shows the Republicans down by 5 and 7, but that’s just one small snapshot.

      RCP’s summaries show Loeffler at -2 and -7 in the last two polls, with Purdue at +1 and -5.

      All of that has changed dramatically in the past two weeks.

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