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A bit of movie trivia – new to me

Scoop, September 2, 2024 (2:56 pm)September 3, 2024 (1:17 am) ... 1 comment.


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I found this story intriguing, so I followed up a bit. It seems other sources dispute the Cracked version. Den of Geek had a long article on this subject, in which they claim:

  1. The footage was not “lost,” but had been shipped to the salt mine for storage.
  2. The scenes were deemed “unworthy” simply because the film stock had deteriorated. (The Cracked verbiage does not state outright, but implies that the scenes were never included in a special edition because of their “unworthy” content.)

The unused footage was packaged off to a Transylvanian salt mine for storage, so when he came looking for the footage it was in such poor shape it was no longer usable. Anderson himself has recently reaffirmed this, seemingly dashing any hope of the lost footage re-emerging from a black hole, like the titular ship itself.

There is a third version of the story told by director Anderson in a 2022 interview:

The problem with the deleted material is that we were right before the DVD revolution when Event Horizon was released. We were going out on VHS in ancillaries. And on VHS there was no room for all of these deleted scenes, there was no reason for the studio to keep it. Now if we’d made the movie a couple of years later, they’d have been all over the deleted scenes. But by the time DVD had happened, and the audience for the movie started demanding special editions, they hadn’t archived a lot of that stuff. So it’s just not there. I think to really reinstitute what the old cut was, you’d need to probably do what they did with the Snyder Cut where you have to go and shoot some material again.

He makes no mention of the salt mine. He simply says the footage “is just not there.”

The deeper I dug into the source of the “salt mine” story, the more dead-ends I found. The salt mine tale is a claim that many have repeated, but I could not determine how the tale originated, nor could I find any first person account. I followed links that claimed Anderson’s confirmation of the story, then found no such confirmation. My current suspicion is that the entire story is bullshit, but I’m open to abandon that suspicion based on further evidence.

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FOOTNOTE 1: what exactly is in that footage?

Den of Geek’s article also explains in general terms what was in the footage.

One fan went into great detail comparing the theatrical version to the existing deleted scenes to the lost deleted scenes.

If you want to totally geek out on this topic, here is the script.

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FOOTNOTE 2: Additional nudity in the deleted material?

Not much.

Holly Chant was topless in the official release:


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Emily Booth is topless for very few frames in the known deleted footage:


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FOOTNOTE 3: Is it a good film?

I called it a brilliant genre flick, albeit one not without flaws, but I added that it had close to zero crossover appeal. From what I have read, my guess is that Anderson’s original cut would have been even more popular with genre fans, but would have had even less crossover appeal.

Roger Ebert awarded only two stars, summed up by a witty comment: “The screenplay creates a sense of foreboding and afterboding, but no actual boding.”

We both compared it to Solaris. (We referred to the Tarkovsky version. Event Horizon came out before Soderbergh’s remake of Solaris.) I summed it up as “Solaris with action scenes,” which I meant as a compliment.

Seven Great Movies You Did Not Know Were Remakes (and much more nonsense)

Scoop, August 22, 2024 (3:45 pm)August 22, 2024 (3:50 pm) ... 2 comments.

Some of these are very loosely categorized as remakes, and I didn’t really learn anything from the text of the article (your mileage may vary), but I did pick up on some fascinating trivia in one of the accompanying posters.

What’s the connection between football great Crazylegs Hirsch, the movie Airplane!, and the hit song Unchained Melody? Read on.

I didn’t know that the legendary Crazylegs Hirsch was a movie star very briefly, not just by playing himself in his autobiographical role (the film was called Crazylegs), but by acting in fictional dramas like Zero Hour, where he had an important supporting role. (You may not know that Zero Hour was the inspiration for the comedy classic Airplane!) I guess I should have known this, given my interest in college football, my love of movies and my residency in Wisconsin (his home), and given that I once researched Hirsch’s football career after watching an episode of SCTV in which Harold Ramis played the station’s chairman, Crazy Legs Hirschman.

Following up on that, I also learned that the song Unchained Melody came from (appropriately enough, I suppose) a film called Unchained, the only fictional film that featured Crazylegs Hirsch as the topline star. I’m not really sure why the zany-legged one went no further in Tinseltown.

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Gilligan may have blood on his hands

Scoop, August 20, 2024 (5:50 pm)August 20, 2024 (8:51 pm) ... 3 comments.

The Dark ‘Gilligan’s Island’ Fan Theories About the Fate of the Eighth Passenger of the S.S. Minnow

Related:

Did you ever see the original pilot, with three different cast members and a different theme song.

Fun trivia:

  • The original Ginger was Kit Smythe
  • In the first intro, it was a SIX-hour tour.
  • Eric Roberts update:

    Scoop, August 14, 2024 (9:57 am) ... 7 comments.

    831 acting credits on IMDb.

    736 completed
    95 upcoming.

    His credits last year: 55 films and 24 episodes in three different series.

    But only 95 productions in the pipeline? That lazy fuck!

    R.I.P. Kevin Sullivan

    Scoop, August 13, 2024 (10:04 am)August 13, 2024 (10:12 am) ... no comments.

    ‘Rasslin’ has produced many memorable heels, like Roddy Piper, who became so popular that fans applauded them. Although they never really turned “good,” they did get to fight on the side of justice in some story lines.

    Kevin Sullivan wasn’t that kind of baddie. Once he turned heel in the 1980s, he was dark and twisted, face-painted, and bad to the bone. He would film ominous promos in the desert or in a swamp, he would lean into evil iconography like skulls and snakes and fire, and he would use gibberish to call on bizarre supernatural entities.

    My favorite Kevin Sullivan story line was when Kevin needed to reach deep into his occult powers to defeat some difficult opponents. He went to the beach, muttered some incantations, and before our very eyes he conjured a new partner, The Purple Haze, who arose in the Atlantic Ocean from the very depths of hell (or the dark side of the moon … or something).

    Of course this “demon” looked just like Sullivan’s usual partner, “Maniac” Mark Lewin, but that was probably just a coincidence.

    Despite all the resources of the dark arts at his beck and call, and despite conjuring an all-powerful immortal demon as his partner, Kevin still got his ass kicked regularly by the Road Warriors.

    Just goes to show that Satan isn’t what he used to be.

    There is an excellent and very thorough obit here.

    30 Rarely Seen Photographs Of Famous People

    Scoop, August 8, 2024 (9:04 am) ... 4 comments.

    There are several in this collection that I had not seen, including Dalton as a bouncer-to-be, Colbert as a bearded college kid, and young Donald Trump looking like a young Gerard Depardieu.

    “15 Unique And Creative Billboards That Will Attract Your Attention”

    Scoop, August 6, 2024 (11:39 pm)August 6, 2024 (11:39 pm) ... no comments.

    It was actually the 16th and 17th (the two heading the article) that caught my attention.

    A topic promoted from the comment section

    Scoop, July 28, 2024 (7:29 pm)July 28, 2024 (7:50 pm) ... 11 comments.

    Per Mr. Haney:

    Recently a Shatner appearance got me thinking. How many actors who appeared in the original “Twilight Zone” are still with us?

    Off the top of my head I could name Shatner, Robert Redford and Carol Burnett. A little digging and I found that Robert Duvall had acted in one of the one hour episodes that I don’t recall. The beautiful Ruta Lee is still living and probably only ever displayed some cleavage but I would love to be proven wrong. I thought another lovely blond, Kathie Browne, was still living but I learned she has passed. I think I had her name confused with another actress whose name I can’t recall right now. And of course more of the child actors are still living, including Billy Mumy, Mary Badham, Ron Howard and Veronica Cartwright. I’m sure I could have found others with a little more digging.

    Maybe some of the learned readers of this blog can chip in with some other names. Or even some of the unlearned.

    Scoop’s note: Shat’s mortal enemy, George Takei, comes immediately to mind. If Shatner is this site’s honorary thunder god, then Takei is my Loki.

    Snoop Dogg to carry Olympic torch ahead of Paris opening ceremony

    Scoop, July 25, 2024 (9:55 pm) ... 2 comments.

    Ah, the eternal Olympic flame. May it always burn.

    But what if it accidentally goes out? Who is prepared to act?

    At first blush, Snoop seems like an eccentric choice for the job, but they wanted a celebrity, and he’s the only one who always carries a lighter.

    R.I.P. Bob Newhart, age 94

    Scoop, July 18, 2024 (3:30 pm)July 18, 2024 (3:52 pm) ... 11 comments.

    Bob Newhart, the genteel but sharply satirical comic whose TV series “The Bob Newhart Show” and “Newhart” were huge hits throughout the 1970s and ’80s, died Thursday in Los Angeles. He was 94. ⁠

    Read more about his life and legacy here: https://t.co/I34GAQQCbb pic.twitter.com/qD3lqXmw89

    — Variety (@Variety) July 18, 2024

    Judd Apatow did a documentary about Bob’s friendship with Don Rickles,


    Obit from The Hollywood Reporter

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