The final order of finish.
It was a great year, reminiscent of the mid-90s. As I wrote about 1996, the second twenty from 2018 are as good or better than the first twenty from some other years. In fact, there are probably 25 or more 2018 scenes that could have finished #1 in 2008!
There were some surprises for me.
I did not expect Sally Hawkins to win. Oh, it’s a great nude performance in a Best Picture winner, but I didn’t even expect her to do well because it was first seen in January, and I figured “out of sight, out of mind.” And after all, she’s not a busty young chickadee. By the way, there has been a bit of backlash against this film. It is rated only 7.4 at IMDb, which is low for the Oscar champion.
I thought it would be between Lachman, Lawrence, Gilpin and Pike. I was surprised that people liked Higareda’s scene slightly more than Lachman’s, but that was also a great one. Altered Carbon was absolutely the rookie of the year.
I thought Sevigny’s and Stewart’s nudity in Lizzie would attract more enthusiasm.
Emma Stone? WTF? It was one breast for one second. It was probably the weakest scene on the list. If that had been a lesser-known actress I wouldn’t even have put it among the choices. You guys must have been longing for some Emma flesh.
Lady Gaga – I expected her to do much better. She showed the works, if only for a second, and she’s a huge star.
Dakota Johnson – I found her scenes a waste of time, and not at all erotic, but Mr. Skin picked her among the top ten, so I thought she would have supporters. I was wrong. You guys, like me, were indifferent to her charms.
If you’re curious, I voted for Pike. It’s great nudity, and she is my dream woman, more or less.
I would be more curious if the poll was randomized as the top vote getters (not surprisingly) are always at the beginning of the poll. It would be interesting to see the results if the pictures were randomly ordered for each person and then selected as such.
The old (picture-less) polls of olde, you had to look for your favorite and choose from there (which seemed to be more appropriate).
These last few polls you’ve run with thumbnails have heavily skewed towards who’s on the top of the page without the voters bothering to look at the rest of the choices. (this can be seen by just a casual scrolling down the list the numbers start high, then dwindle as you get to the bottom where all you see are a few random 1’s and many 0’s).
Or maybe show the choices with thumbnails on another page (or a small zip file for people to look at the choices and then let people decide from there) more effort…yes, but it would lead to cleaner results overall. There’s many roads to the same results as far as I see it.
That’s my armchair QB look at things.
2018 had a lot of big names, most who’ve done something before, sadly NONE of them (except maybe Pike) were standouts to me.
A poll where a large busted, clearly lit & hot Uma Thurman gets 0 votes is a shock to me. I personally went with Lola Glaudini in Ray Donovan (I don’t know much about her or the show) but that clip impressed me greatly (and that’s mostly what we’re voting on isn’t it…the best scene of the year?)
Anyway, I don’t have inclination to dissect the poll as I always seem to do, just more wanted to point out my casual observation of voting habits and how this potentially affected the results.
Take it for what it’s worth.
For the record, I did a screenshot when the poll started and compared it to the results and with very few exceptions fall within that line of reasoning I bring up in my last post.
The results are pretty even to my hypothesis people made their 1st choice as scrolling down, then didn’t bother to check any of the other choices before submitting their vote.
I agree. I think it would get more valid results if a) the thumbnails were constantly randomized b) each person could vote for 5
Not exactly correct. They have not “skewed” toward the top, except in the sense that Federer and Nadal skew toward the top of tournament results. I seed them from top to bottom, and then this time I re-sorted them as the poll progressed. The results are similar to the original position because I tried to forecast the final results at the outset. The top positions can’t really be that important because I sometimes guess completely wrong. Ask Lady Gaga and Chloe Sevigny!
“The results are similar to the original position because I tried to forecast the final results at the outset.”
Why???
Why not just let things progress as they should instead of artificially working the results? (aka predicting what you think the people will vote for) that’s just silly (and something out of a bad russian fan fiction about rigging elections or a monty python sketch that has one candidate on the ballot with “choose the best candidate” on the top of the ballot)
I should expect better from you, shouldn’t I?
(especially after following Other Crap from its inception and the Funhouse even longer)
I know we have front runners in some of the “retro polls” you’ve ran, those are a given. (and most results of those are fairly predetermined, but still lose a lot of quality scenes given what you revealed here, and those retro polls prove that)
If you look at the older text based polls, when people had to know the content, there were a few front runners, but then some other scenes would gather steam and be surprises, which is something I don’t foresee happening if this is the way forward.
“The top positions can’t really be that important because I sometimes GUESS completely wrong.” (highlighted for emphasis)
But like this year, there were no clear front runners, so unless you try and game the results (as you clearly stated, or at least my understanding of what you said) what purpose did it serve other than to give an artificial skew to what should have been an untouched poll? (which is what I’m trying to get across)
“Ask Lady Gaga and Chloe Sevigny!”
Like someone else mentioned they’ve shown it all before (and in Gaga’s case in much better quality), it’s the same reason Kristen Stewart shared low votes, she doesn’t have that “it” factor anymore like when Twilight was actually a thing.
However….
Stacking the deck, isn’t in the best interest of getting clean results.
(Unless you’re like those news sites who write obituaries ahead of time for famous people who aren’t dead yet*)
*I was being sarcastic there.
Still it proves my comment that the larger vote getters stayed at the top (and were placed there purposefully) as sadly the voters were too lazy to check the rest before scrolling down to the bottom and clicking submit. (Ex. Oh J-Law, click…submit, how would she have done if at the bottom of the poll, I wonder?)
(Which would be at fault here, the poll which was artificially created and ordered very specifically or the voters not checking all of their choices?)
By doing it that way, it’s tainting the results and letting lesser knowns and genuinely good scenes languish in favor of top vote getters, getting more votes with that process (if I’m understanding correctly)
If I didn’t see previous top 10 finishers doing so poorly I probably wouldn’t be making such a big deal about this, but something felt “rotten in Denmark” to me when there was such a discrepancy when looking at the results.
I’m all for complete randomization next time or going back to the text only polls, otherwise why bother if you’re already forecasting what people should like, no reason to even have the poll anymore at that point, right?
Anyway, I’ve had my say, just disappointed this is the new process going forward and how it isn’t allowing for “the best” scenes of the year to actually win (or manage more than a vote or two) even some big names pretty much got snubbed or performed a lot less than expected (Thurman and Seyfried come to mind as obvious examples of big names in decent scenes that received little to no support due to their purposeful placement on these new polls you’re using).
‘Nuff said.
As I’m sure you can guess, I complete disagree with pretty much every word you wrote except “a,” “an” and “the.”
The most important point is that your arguments are self contradictory. On the one hand, you argue that the placement is important. Then you argue that in the case of Gaga and Chloe, the placement was not important BECAUSE …
That’s the real point. If someone is on the top, it does no good unless they actually belong at the top.
The main thing you missed is the evidence of history. In the old alphabetical system (it was never randomized or rotated), being on the top of the list seemed to have almost no impact for 20 years, so why would it suddenly become so significant. Sure it has some impact, but that impact is minimal.
The placement simply helps to separate the wheat from the chaff. In the old alphabetical system, it was easy to miss something in reading down a long text list. I decided to (try to) eliminate that problem. Also, some of these years have as many as a hundred choices. I don’t want to give people homework, but just to let them enjoy a fun exercise. It’s not supposed to be scientific. My background is in statistics and design, and I know how to create scientific questionaires. This ain’t one of them!
As for Uma, I assume you are kidding. It’s very difficult to believe that anyone could possibly have thought that was the best scene of the year. You’d have to overlook Pike, Lawrence, Lachman and about two dozen others which were better, more interesting and more explicit scenes done by younger and more beautiful women.
Remember that this is a poll designed for a single ballot, as opposed to listing a top ten or something, so the only ones that should be on the list at all are ones that could reasonably be somebody’s very first choice. There were about 200 scenes on my original list, but I pared it down to 60-some which people might conceivably have voted for as their VERY favorite. Even that list probably included 20 items too many (including Uma). Based on that, Uma really shouldn’t have even been there at all, but I put her among the choices out of respect for her legacy, and in the assumption that she might have die-hard fans.
I eliminated 150 scenes from the outset, thereby assuring that they would get no votes. Then I gave the other 60 a seed. So, sure, my pre-poll preparation has an impact, especially on the ones that don’t make the list at all. I wouldn’t call that gaming the results. I would call it making the poll manageable.
Again, keep in mind an most important point. Nothing should be on the list just because it was a good scene. It should be a scene that people could reasonably choose as the very best of the year after looking at all the awesome choices on the board.
“I should expect better from you, shouldn’t I?
(especially after following Other Crap from its inception and the Funhouse even longer)”
Well, aren’t you the entitled little princess?
Part of the reason some of them placed so high, like Emma Stone, and some of them placed so low, like Lady Gaga, would be essentially market forces at work.
The supply of Emma Stone breasts is pretty damn limited, but Lady Gaga nudity is not especially hard to find.
Surprised that Sally Hawkins won as well. She’s a good looking woman, don’t get me wrong, but top nude scene of the year? Not only not what I would pick, but definitely not what I expected.
If I could have voted twice it would have been for Jennifer Lawrence and Kelly Reilly. I voted for Kelly because it was nudity on the Paramount Network, which I believe is a basic cable/satellite channel. Because of that, that level of nudity is remarkable.
This is…very puzzling.
Specifically?
I was just reading that Dichen Lachman wore a fake muff in her nude swordfighting scene. She said: “And this is funny: We also had to design the merkin — a wig for ‘down there.’ We had to decide how it looked and how much I needed to feel comfortable. I discussed the design with the stunt girls too because I didn’t want to be the only person who was comfortable with it. There was a lot of people who had to be naked and in all sorts of positions and doing different things. One of the best wigmakers in the business made the merkin, and I remember first seeing it and it was just ridiculously long. I spent an hour and a half in the trailer with the makeup girls trying to shape and trim it so it wouldn’t be distracting. Otherwise, I would look like I was wearing a small animal.”
My favorite was Paula Beer in “Werk ohne Autor” (Never look away). But it was only in Cinema. There is no DVD or Blu-ray yet.
FB is right. I would have voted for Phoebe Tonkins.
Damn what a great year! It’s hard to even get it down to a top 5.
I better study this further…
No Tonkin no Pugh no Skelton hahaha?? Clearly the person who made this forgot some of the best scenes of the year…
Not sure what you are looking at but all 3 of them were included. They just didn’t win. Maybe you should have voted…
As the old saying goes, “there’s no accounting for taste.”
Although I suggested that Felicity Palmateer be included in the poll, I went a different direction.
Naked martial arts supercedes naked surfing. At least in my set of standards.
Which one has naked martial arts?
Well, maybe not martial arts. But a fight scene.
Dichen Lachman in Altered Carbon.
I have to agree. Its not just that its a fight scene but an audacious one at that.
I went with Lola Glaudini. Sopranos fans know that as the FBI agent initially handling Adriana, Lola displayed her stunning cleavage several times and made you wish for more. I never thought she would, but she finally displayed those magnificent mammaries, and in a sex scene to boot. She won’t win this poll since she’s nowhere near popular enough, but still, it’s kinda like Stefanie Powers in Crescendo, or Vinessa Shaw in Ray Donovan, when they gave you a good look you never expected to see.
Huh? Sally Hawkins? She’s a beast. 40 better looking options.
You, sir, have a poor taste in women.
I think you have sally Hawkins confused with some incredibly hot 20 yr old supermodel. This sally Hawkins looks like my grandmother. All three scenes in altered carbon were on a different planet than her. As was Jennifer Lawrence, Amanda seyfried, winstead, Tipton and on and on. You may have liked the movie but sally is not a good lookin woman.
I know who Sally Hawkins is, and yeah, she doesn’t look like a 20 year old supermodel. She’s in her early forties, and looks great.
look at that scene and Jennifer Lawrence scene like night and day and may i suggest eyeglasses for those who have this scene first
Give me your grandma’s number because it looks like you’re about to have a new grandpa.